tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post2901163331660954078..comments2023-05-11T05:33:36.857-04:00Comments on Persecuted Church Weblog: Spiritist challenges visiting preachers to power encounter in UgandaGreg Musselmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15224965213121759243noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post-12298191569376032902009-07-02T04:08:34.574-04:002009-07-02T04:08:34.574-04:00I am an African, from Nigeria, and I fully underst...I am an African, from Nigeria, and I fully understand this kind of situation very well. It is something a believer in Christ Jesus faces virtually daily in different forms and shades. Let me explain: The majority of people in Nigeria are either moslems, Christians or traditional religion adherents (herbalists, idol worshippers, spiritists belong to this 3rd group)<br /><br />A Christian who wholly believes in Jesus Christ - for there are many so-called 'christians' who secretly visit the herbalists, by their fruits one knows such persons - true Christians very often have to contend with these spiritualists in the work environment, in extended family relationships and in the neighbourhood. In fact, here in the south of Nigeria, persecution takes the form of a spiritualist vowing to 'deal' with you by, for example, using his demonic powers to get you sacked at work, delay promotions, prevent a woman from conceiving, afflict a person with terrible diseases that defiles western medicine, causes madness, etc. <br /><br />But the good news is that for true believers who are walking in righteousness by the grace of God, such demonic powers have not been able to gain the upper hand on a believer in the long run. For example, where it seemed that demonic powers are employed to prevent conception for years, the Lord Jesus has been seen to come in at last to give a spectacular victory, and such a woman will testify to God's intervention in making her conceive after she has even given up trying to conceive for many years. <br /><br />Of course, there are times when it will look as if the evil has triumphed, but Jesus will still come in to bring victory out of what seems like a defeat. It will be akin to the case of Stephen. First, Stephen, even while being stoned SAW Jesus Christ! Second, his death which caused a scattering of believers brought revival. Third, his prayers for forgiveness for his enemies must have been used of God in converting Saul.<br /><br />The evangelist in the story did not seem too wise in taking up the challenge of the herbalist. If it was the Spirit of God which led him to accept the challenge, the result would have brought glory to Jesus. I have seen this over and over in my own environment. The Lord must save us from presumptious sin.<br /><br />It might be a bit difficult for someone in the West to understand fully the kind of persecution a Christian in Africa faces in the hands of spiritists. But Jesus remains thesame in every type of persecution, and He either saves His children IN the situation or FROM the situation. But in all, His name will be glorified in every geniune case of persecution, in whatever form.<br /><br />RemiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post-40537826905618850752009-06-30T10:06:16.918-04:002009-06-30T10:06:16.918-04:00If I had been there,I would not have accepted the ...If I had been there,I would not have accepted the invitation.I wouldhave invited all my fellowbelievers for a day of fastig and praying.To seek the Lord's will in this event.<br />This seems to me an occasion in which we should not be anxious to gain the upper hand in our own strength but have faith in the absolute victory of God in Jesus death and resurrection over all the forces of Satan.And believing that God will do his will and will establish his kingdom in his time and that time is from everlasting to everlasting.Daniel 3:17,18."O,Nebukadnezzar,we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter.If e are thrown in the blazing furnace,the God we serve is able to save us from it and he will rescue us from your hand O King.But even if he does not ,we want you to know,O King,that we will not serve your gods or worship the image you have set up."<br />Luke 23:35<br />The people stood watching,ad the rulers even sneered at him.They said "He saved others;let him save himself if he is the Christ of God,the Chosen One."<br />HE DID NOT !!<br /> BUT HE DID !!<br />Suzanna MeyerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post-79615971379564050422009-06-29T23:15:54.179-04:002009-06-29T23:15:54.179-04:00For me, to be completely honest, I find this entir...For me, to be completely honest, I find this entire situation quite strange. As an American, I have no frame of reference for this type of thing. And, to piggy-back on what Bill Yeo said, sometimes God makes you stay and kills you, sometimes He makes you stay and kills everyone else, sometimes He makes you leave and doesn't kill anyone... etc. He doesn't do the same thing every time and we don't know what His plans are here. <br /><br />I think that we just don't have enough information. Mostly, we have no idea what the Spirit was speaking to those Christians. What may look like an act of cowardice may, in fact, have been total obedience. We simply don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post-52594513009986663882009-06-29T19:06:05.160-04:002009-06-29T19:06:05.160-04:00Perhaps what I am about to write is naive, because...Perhaps what I am about to write is naive, because I don't like in a culture that has such power demonstrations (I'm in Canada.) But if I was confronted with a similar position, this is what would likely go through my mind: Since Scritpure tells us that 'Greater is He who is in me, than he who is in the world' I would not be afraid of any spirit -that spirit would only be able to do to me what the Lord Jesus permits. However, if a possessed individual, or some other force was threatening me physically, then I would either flee (if I feared for my physical safety) or I would endure any physical suffering if I felt the peace of God as He directed me to remain. To flee or to remain, when physical violence is threatened, seems to be a situational decision, as Scripture has examples of faithful individuals,some of whom fled and some of whom remained. But as to the power of a spirit over me, in a power confrontation, I would have no fear. Again, as I said above, that spirit has no less and no more power over me, except as the Lord Jesus allows.Bill Yeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13926046109298704097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20271097.post-52827990077376951532009-06-29T18:13:02.245-04:002009-06-29T18:13:02.245-04:00I am a Christian and this bothers me. I will not p...I am a Christian and this bothers me. I will not pass judgment though. How do we really know what we would do in the same situation. I pray that I would be walking full of the Holy Spirit to speak with GOD'S authority and hear the Spirits leading to know what to do. From an outsider looking at this, it appears that this was a golden opportunity for GOD to really show the people and Kansaze who is the real only one GOD, like Elijah did on Mount Carmel (or by casting out the demon, if the Spirit led to). I only pray that GOD will send His anointed ones to that same village to show the truth to the people that JESUS is LORD.MountainBelieverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05817413412614344339noreply@blogger.com